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	<title>Comments on: Is the Value Fetish Killing Agile Teams?</title>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-307</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 23:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for clearing that up, Steve, and also for leading the fascinating session at CITCON which inspired this post.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for clearing that up, Steve, and also for leading the fascinating session at CITCON which inspired this post.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Freeman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-302</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, I coined that term.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I meant it to refer to teams where anything other than writing production code /right now/ is regarded as a waste of time. This is a valid response to those (many) others who never seem to ship anything, but teams need to keep up their technical and organisational maintenance as well -- otherwise someone, often someone else, will hit the wall.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also think there&#039;s an element of programmer&#039;s addiction about this phenomenon:  http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I coined that term.</p>

<p>I meant it to refer to teams where anything other than writing production code /right now/ is regarded as a waste of time. This is a valid response to those (many) others who never seem to ship anything, but teams need to keep up their technical and organisational maintenance as well &#8212; otherwise someone, often someone else, will hit the wall.</p>

<p>I also think there&#8217;s an element of programmer&#8217;s addiction about this phenomenon:  <a href="http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve Freeman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-300</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Freeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Actually, I think I coined that term. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I meant it to apply to teams where any time spent not writing production code /right now/ is considered wasted. It&#039;s a valid reaction to others that never deliver anything, but a team has to keep up its technical and social maintenance. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also think that for some people, there&#039;s an element of programmer&#039;s addiction about it.: http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think I coined that term. </p>

<p>I meant it to apply to teams where any time spent not writing production code /right now/ is considered wasted. It&#8217;s a valid reaction to others that never deliver anything, but a team has to keep up its technical and social maintenance. </p>

<p>I also think that for some people, there&#8217;s an element of programmer&#8217;s addiction about it.: <a href="http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/" rel="nofollow">http://www.m3p.co.uk/blog/2008/08/12/another-reason-for-licensing-programmers/</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Gorman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-252</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thankfully, user stories are impervious to such abuse :-)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully, user stories are impervious to such abuse <img src='http://blog.mattwynne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 09:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the reality check, old-timer! ;)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You&#039;re quite right about use cases, and when used properly I don&#039;t think they&#039;re really any different from user stories, are they?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I have however seen use cases abused such that the high-value and low-value features are so muddled together it&#039;s almost impossible to tease them apart.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the reality check, old-timer! <img src='http://blog.mattwynne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>You&#8217;re quite right about use cases, and when used properly I don&#8217;t think they&#8217;re really any different from user stories, are they?</p>

<p>I have however seen use cases abused such that the high-value and low-value features are so muddled together it&#8217;s almost impossible to tease them apart.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason Gorman</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Gorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Oct 2008 06:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Matt&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Very interesting indeed :-)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;but I&#039;m afraid I must take issue with your claim that value-driven projects are an Agile innovation. Use cases, for example, capture the user&#039;s goals for interacting with a system. Use cases (or &quot;usage cases&quot;, as they were originally concieved) and scenario-driven development in general are now several decades old.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Pre-Agile, there have also been many attempts at aligning software features with business goals (the main aim of Enterprise Architecture).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;These approaches probably suffered fro being too BDUF and too heavily applied in the past, but they were most definitely out there and in use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We must be careful to remember that the agile movement has mainly reframed existing practices, applying them with a new set of values. But there&#039;s nothing new under the Agile sun!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matt</p>

<p>Very interesting indeed <img src='http://blog.mattwynne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>but I&#8217;m afraid I must take issue with your claim that value-driven projects are an Agile innovation. Use cases, for example, capture the user&#8217;s goals for interacting with a system. Use cases (or &#8220;usage cases&#8221;, as they were originally concieved) and scenario-driven development in general are now several decades old.</p>

<p>Pre-Agile, there have also been many attempts at aligning software features with business goals (the main aim of Enterprise Architecture).</p>

<p>These approaches probably suffered fro being too BDUF and too heavily applied in the past, but they were most definitely out there and in use.</p>

<p>We must be careful to remember that the agile movement has mainly reframed existing practices, applying them with a new set of values. But there&#8217;s nothing new under the Agile sun!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Eugene</title>
		<link>http://blog.mattwynne.net/2008/10/08/is-the-value-fetish-killing-agile-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Oct 2008 16:44:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am looking for some idea and stumble upon your posting :) decide to wish you Thanks. Eugene&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking for some idea and stumble upon your posting <img src='http://blog.mattwynne.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  decide to wish you Thanks. Eugene</p>]]></content:encoded>
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